Talk:Miracles/@comment-184.158.212.192-20170627215414

Everyone complaining on Miracles being weak when it can throw Status Effects like they're nothing (and thus dodging most hits enemies try to throw) and being able to hit most people's weaknesses given it can inflict Fire, Ice, Wind and Electric Damage. It only takes some Hamon techniques (or a good partner) to cover up some of Miracles' weaknesses.

Although one thing I would like to see more of is Miracles' power over the subconscious using these same things in game. I mean, don't get me wrong, I feel that "....." is an awesome skill exemplifying this, but it can do even more. For example, the Subconscious can control bodily functions that we don't consciously control, such as body temperature, breathing, blinking, heart rate, persperation, as well as dreams, memories and the like.

For example, it could be able to inflict BlowBack or NoBreath by interfering with their breathing, or Darkness by interfering with their eyesight. Perhaps even a skill with a chance of instant K.O. by turning off all of their subconscious body processes. This wouldn't work on characters whose bodily functions aren't present or aren't required to live, such as Vampires or the Undead.

Some overworld ideas I have also include abit of mind control or making people spill the beans. For example, using Miracles on Steely Dan to make him take the Lovers out, or in Saudi Arabia it could help trivialize the Sun or Death 13. Maybe even making Fake Captain Tennile forget how to breathe underwater. The former by eliminating perspiration problems and making people's body temperatures remain the same regardless of the heat, and given it could control dreams it could be a full on reality warper against Death 13's dream world. I have further ideas but I fear I may be getting TL;DR at this point.

Although I do feel that given the potentially sinister uses for Miracles, perhaps some balancing could be that actually making use of some of these should make Dio more aware of how much of a threat you are (although I imagine such a thing should go for all stands: the better you know how to use your stand and how many scenarios it trivializes, the more Dio would see you as a threat and make you a priority target), or they could earn some Bad Karma (mind control as said has some really sinister uses, the Fake Tennile drowning and Death 13 reality warping).